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Archive >> December 2007

avatar Poker Players Alliance: News and Articles
Dec. 2007: Report from the Chairman



Dear Member,

As we near the end of 2007, the fight for poker gains momentum.  Since our last newsletter, the PPA has become more involved at the state level, received national media coverage, and we have become an increasingly active and influential force in Washington, D.C.

Our Washington Fly-In and policy conference was a huge success and we made a significant impression on Congress and the media. In just two days of lobbying the “fly-in” participants met with nearly 50 members of the U.S. House and Senate. Several of our meetings resulted in commitments of support and co-sponsorship of H.R. 2046 and H.R. 2610. Click here to see coverage.

As a result of the DC Fly-In, Rep. John Conyers (MI) Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee held a hearing to discuss Internet gaming in which PPA Representative, Annie Duke ably testified and proudly defended our right to play, letting Congress know we will not lie down and surrender our rights. Click here to see coverage.

At the state level, when unjust laws or campaigns are introduced against poker players, individual players across the country are often the first to hear about them. Our PPA State Directors in Massachusetts, Kentucky, and Washington State have successfully brought attention to such events and continue to fight for America's card game.

Responding to a proposed casino bill criminalizing online poker, MA State Rep, Randy Castonguay helped organize the delivery of more than 1700 letters to State Reps, State Senators and the Governor in less than a week. KY State Rep, Rich Muny led an effort against an anti-poker Governor with calls, letters and emails from PPA members.  WA State Rep., Lee Rousso is entrenched in a legal fight with Washington Courts to overturn a state ban on online poker.

To highlight the importance of state poker rights, ReasonTV and Drew Carey produced a video focusing on a Dallas police poker raid at Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1837 that took place in April 2007. The video segment comes in time for the Dec. trial of those arrested and questions the aspects surrounding the raid. Watch the piece here.

Now is a critical time to build on the momentum and coverage of our successful DC Fly-In, House Judiciary hearing on Internet gaming, and state initiatives, and to increase grassroots activism at the state level for 2008. If you haven't already, contact your PPA State Director and let them know you are want to be involved in 2008.

I would also like to introduce our new Manager of Membership Relations, Bryan Spadaro. We are very excited to have Bryan as part of our growing team. With prior DC experience, Bryan brings a passion for both politics and poker. If you have any questions for him, feel free to contact him via the PPA forums.

To help kickstart the PPA forums for 2008 we are having a free raffle for a PPA Poker Table. Create a login at the PPA Forums and make a post in the 2008 Giveaway thread to enter. See rules at the PPA forum. The PPA forums are a great place to post your ideas about things PPA can do and share pertinent information with your fellow PPA members.

We would also like to say goodbye to David "Chip" Reese who passed away this month. Chip was an incredible ambassador of poker and true professional of the game with incredible skill and grace. 

Lastly, we at the PPA would like to take this opportunity to wish all of you and your loved ones a happy holidays.

Proud to play poker,
Alfonse D'Amato, Chairman
Poker Players Alliance


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Poker Rigged? What do YOU think?

Dec 2, 2007 2:22 pm


The problem here is in the definition of the word "rigged". Rigged, bad beat, getting caught in a bluff, being outplayed and making a move and getting caught are not synonymous. I doubt anyone who is even marginally on top of the stories of security and procedural breaches, admissions by the sites themselves, third party exposé's and paybacks* to players by sites themselves can say breaches don't exist. We all have to admit to that since recovering from being cheated is most often internally investigated and most don't have the legal and technical expertise to properly investigate and press for recovery you are effectively at the mercy and integrity of the site for redress. *Payback defined here as a refund to an account not associated with a promotion. All of these things exist. I bet no one here is going to deposit 1,000 of their own money in AbsolutePoker today and everyone has a heightened observation of "strange things" happening. Much of this can be resolved my regulation and penalties for malfeasance, insurance that sites have the financial ability to cover what they owe, are fined and penalized in cases of breaches and a uniform baseline of externally verifiable operational integrity of anyone operating a site is in place. All of this being in effect will have absolutely no effect on "bad beats" real or perceived, getting caught in a bluff or being outplayed.

 

As for being "rigged" there is scarcely an enterprise that humans participate in where if someone can cheat someone will. Proper procedures should be able to detect "rogue" employees and rogue sites certainly the environment for both exist now.

 

The only protection we have as players is the existence of verifiable methods of secure operations, enforcement with teeth to punish those who either purposely or through ineptitude operates outside uniform, external guidelines. It appears that the people involved in the Absolute scandal were all close-knit insiders (including Mark Seif) who blogged and held the position to the end that "this was impossible","be careful there may be a defamation suit". Who can say from a perspective of close, personal knowledge that there are no rigged sites, rigged games and that every hand dealt is perfectly above board? I am absolutely sure (pun intended) that everyone making this claim of "not rigged hold a position within the sites from which to make this claim from fact. Given the millions sites can easily make and the existence of technological means to establish secure operations I can think of no other reason than greed, stupidity or to rig the site for more and more profits (a combination of greed and stupidity) to advocate no meaningful oversight. In my view those who believe that linking security and legalization reduces the likelihood of removing prohibition are fooling themselves.

 

Notwithstanding the foibles of lawmaking in the US congress (foibles it appears to me all politicians of all parties and countries have) separating these issues strengthens the "prohibition crowd's" argument by letting them add "NO poker without oversight just so site operators can make millions and we can be cheated" to their mantra and it lets the "stop prohibition crowd" to add "I'd rather have NO Poker rather than poker without oversight so I can be cheated"to theirs. If the sites are not careful this "open environment" will be what kills online play.

 

Did anyone notice that just within the last few weeks the main sites just purchased and/or developed and installed software to detect multiple / defunct accounts? Having done this earlier would have given "PotRipper", "BullDozer" Et.Al. one less avenue to compromise their sites. I bet the cost of this was much less that the cost to site traffic, reputation and movement towards not being legalized.

This can be seen that a least some sites know the importance of having an honest, secure game.....but being forced into accountability by catastrophic event is not accountability ©2007 Jon Holt Merlin333 :cool: