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Stuff about poker and whatever I find interesting at that moment in time...
Archive >> August 2007

Ok, picture in your mind a typical 3 bdrm 2 ba single level house on a modest family street, nice visual going yet? Ok, good, now, you know the one housethat always seemed to have trouble brewing around there? The cops, the loud music , the dogs, the parties on a Wednesday night or every night, the revving of sandrail engines, Harley motors, the smell of spraypaint going on a bumper, we all have at least one in every suburban neighborhood across the US....well that's where I fell in love with the game of poker. Long nights for a 16 year old girl, who just loved hanging out with the guys... but that's where my now husband of 20 years lived. I was in LUV (thats how 16 year old girls spelled it back then)... nothing could have or did stop me from hanging with him in those days, my Mom wasn't around much, my Dad left 15 years earlier, I never knew him, so I got myself a boyfriend... 10 years older and oh so much wiser (budweiser that is).. he knew it all... him and his buddies were so much weiser they built an entire walk-in castle thing-a-ma-bobber out of beer cans. "But honey if we ever have kids, they already got something to play in... ahahaha" Well back to the poker part of this story.... every Friday & Saturday night we would all sit down and pretend how to play poker, we always had arguments over hand - ranks, for the love of me I don't remember why, but it probably had something to do with every other card being 'wild', now that was fun... lol .... 7 card baseball with 2's, 6's and one-eyed jacks wild was one of the favorites of the nights..."no Copper on the Table" was our motto, and if one person ran out of money we all threw him some change, just to keep him around longer... and this party lasted for almost 4 years every weekend, until the 'man' took 2 bros away for awhile so they could lift some weights, and make 12 cents an hour. All of us that played poker together just kind of scattered after that, some went east some went west, but all our lives changed after that night. But it sure was fun while it lasted ;) I then went about 3 years without playing a single hand... I just couldn't find anywhere or anyone that really was interested, the good old days were over, reality sunk in, or reality was 'smoked' out on purpose, kids were conceived, a couple even ended up with a mortgage payment, and the white picket fence- aww Isn't that sweet? "GAG!" These people swore to Live free and ride hard for the rest of their lives, whatever, they turned into yuppie scum. Not that there is anything wrong with living the good life, but to just abandon your friends/family that were there for you in good and bad times, for money and "things" just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. But life moves on.... and then along came this thing they call a computer... ohhhhhhhhh ahhhhhh , You mean I can play games online? against real people? Right On! I found a new friend in the internet... I started with blackjack, then blackjack tourneys, then found a game they called Texas Holdem, took about 3 hours to download on my slow very slow dial up connection, and of course there was no $$ involved, but I didn't care, I was playing poker again. Limit poker was all they offered back then from the Hoyle Co., I then started playing the poker tourneys they offered thru the same software. They were fun, usually around 85-100 players. Then the admin who sponsored the tourneys aked me if I would like to become a tourney director for the BJ and poker tourneys. I did that for about a year and just got burnt out on the results lists that I had to handwrite and then post to a website. It was tedious and most times I was the only one to show up. Our 'leader' didn't lead by example thats for sure. So after that site disolved into a pay to play for fun site, I just lost hope for poker in my future. Until one day a kid named Mike said , psssst, hey Gin, they got this real poker site going on at pokerpages... well heck, I never thought about going and searching for poker anywhere else, I didn't know hardly anything about a computer at all, I read all kinds of things to teach me how to use and not kill a computer. None of it made any sense to me until I sat with the mouse, and now I can't put it down, I don't know how I ever functioned without it. That might be an experiment to try... "Lady, put down the mouse"....lol

............................ cont. in Part II................ sometime soon....


Congressman Ron Paul Against UIGEA

 

 

Congressman Ron Paul

Congressman Ron Paul

By Arthur Crowson

There is one more opponent of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA). According to www.house.gov, Presidential hopeful Ron Paul will be offering his support to Congressman Barney Frank's revised gambling bill, the Internet Gambling Regulation and Enforcement Act or IGREA.

 

The act would create an exemption to the ban on online gambling for licensed operators, allowing Americans to lawfully bet online.

Paul called UIGEA an, "Outrageous affront" to individual freedom. He went on to state the importance of respecting the American people's right to decide for themselves whether or not they gamble online.

Paul is a prominent Republican Congressman from Lake Jackson, Texas, who is now serving his 10th term. He is a long-time libertarian and has voiced a strong opposition to the Iraq war. Following a recent debate in Iowa and more mainstream coverage Paul's popularity seems to be rising. Gambling911.com recently slashed his odds of becoming president from 15 to 1 to 8 to 1. Many pundits have him pegged as the Internet's favorite candidate.

IGREA, also known as HR 2046, was introduced on April 26, 2007, by Frank, who is a member of the Democrat Party. Frank has since continued his battle against the Internet Gambling Ban while bolstering support for his revised bill.

"The existing legislation is an inappropriate interference on the personal freedom of Americans and should be undone," said Frank when he introduced the bill.

IGREA would establish a federal regulatory and enforcement framework to license companies to accept bets and wagers online from individuals in the U.S. To the extent permitted by individual states, Indian tribes and sports leagues.

Poker Players Alliance Chairman and former U.S. Senator Alfonse D'Amato has also put himself firmly behind the bill.

"Congressman Frank's bill is a common sense approach to Internet gambling," he said when it was announced.

Support of IGREA seems to be growing. There are currently 34 co-sponsors with Neil Abercrombie (D-Hi.), Joe Baca (D-Calif.) and Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) the most recent to sign onboard.

Aides to Frank's office have said they are receiving a massive amount of phone calls and e-mails from individuals voicing their support for the bill as well.

Frank and Co. have their work cut out for them, however, as it currently takes 218 votes to ratify a bill.



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Dear Fellow PPA Member:

Thanks to your efforts, we have made tremendous progress in our fight to protect the rights of poker players. More than 40 Members of the U.S. House of Representatives have committed to clarifying federal laws to preserve your ability to play poker online. But we still need your help to get the attention of every U.S. Representative.

Congress is in recess for August and your Representative will be returning home to host local events and town hall meetings. These are great opportunities to tell them that poker is not a crime and to support H.R. 2046, the Internet Gambling Regulation and Enforcement Act and H.R. 2610, the Skill Game Protection Act.

Here's how to find out when these events are happening:

  1. Get the phone number of your U.S. Representative's hometown office by clicking here and entering your ZIP Code.

  2. Call to ask when and where these events are taking place in the month of August.

  3. Go to one of these events and bring your fellow poker players. Tell your U.S. Representative that poker is not a crime and to co-sponsor H.R. 2046 and H.R. 2610 when they return to Washington. Let them know that you will support them if they support the rights of law-abiding poker players.

Thank you for being an "August Advocate" for the Poker Players Alliance.

Proud to Play Poker,
Senator Al D'Amato
Chairman of the Board
Poker Players Alliance


Requiem for a poker game

Poker has been spoiled by TV tournaments and players schooled online. In the battle for the big payoff, wit and camaraderie have been trumped by computer logic and greed.

By Robert Burton-Salon.com


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July 28, 2007 | A week and a half ago, Jerry Yang, a 39-year-old Southern California psychologist and social worker, won the 2007 World Series of Poker championship -- and $8.25 million. A pretty impressive feat, considering that Yang has played poker for only two years, and won his $10,000 entry fee via a local Indian casino $225 satellite tournament (a spectacular parlay in which winning a smaller tournament provided the entry fee for the larger tournament). Like the other winners in the past four years, he was a relative novice who honed his successful aggressive style by playing online poker.

Winning the World Series of Poker championship is every poker player's dream. When you have outplayed over 6,000 players, you are, if only until the next tournament, "the world's best." Unlike soon-to-be-anonymous lottery winners, the WSOP champion is guaranteed a life-altering series of financial arrangements, ranging from online poker site endorsements that have paid millions per year, to $50,000-a-day corporate guest appearances, to a free Las Vegas penthouse condominium in return for plastering one's face on Vegas airport billboards. Tournament-winning players like the notoriously self-marketing Phil Hellmuth have become household names, hustling everything from poker video games to instructional DVDs on how to beat other players selling similar DVDs. In the few years since poker has been prominently televised, major U.S. poker tournaments have become the third most-watched "sport" on TV, trailing football and NASCAR.

But this is not the same game that once was America's Friday-night kitchen table staple -- a group of guys and gals gathered over chips, beer, cigars and swaggers, laughing and bluffing. Poker now bears little resemblance to serious cash-game poker once played in a dimly lit Las Vegas backroom by a Damon Runyon-esque collection of high-octane gamblers, bookies, off-season oil riggers, rodeo champs, denizens of the underworld and slumming celebrities who gave poker its color. That was a time when the best players were those who knew both cards and people, sly self-promoters like Amarillo Slim and Stu Ungar who lived off their wits and cunning, including peddling the romantic image of the professional gambler.

Back then, those of us who loved poker would fly to Las Vegas to learn the game from the best, patiently watching and gathering experience, studying how Johnny Moss or Jack Strauss played a particular hand, until we had our personal memorized database of what was thought to be optimal play. Experience was considered a form of wisdom; improving one's game required much face-to-face poker playing, observation of players' styles, patterns of betting, tells, and sharing of stories and strategies. Poker was a social game; good playing required an understanding of probabilities and psychology. Equally important were the social skills that would attract lesser (losing) players.

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Not anymore. The vast majority of new young players have primarily learned to play poker online. They have honed their skills with the aid of computer simulations and data mining -- complex software programs that monitor the play of their opponents and provide a detailed categorization of each style of play. This new breed of successful players comes from the virtual arena; they are likely to spend most of their playing time either alone or with similarly inclined computer geeks. As people do in the digital community Second Life, players develop virtual personas, fictitious avatars and cartoonish social skills, and are seldom accountable for their behavior. Other players aren't colleagues, comrades in crime or even casual social acquaintances; they are obstacles to be overcome on the way to the big score.

The massive popularity of tournament poker has irreparably altered the tenor of the game by introducing the lottery aspect of the big win. Unlike cash games in which you can quit whenever you want, in tournament poker, all entrants pay a single entry fee. You cash out only by beating at least 90 percent of the field; only the top 1 percent of participants get a significant payout. To create exciting megaprizes, tournaments are structured to pay huge sums to the top few finishers, while leaving the rest empty-handed -- a sharp contrast with traditional poker games, in which a single table can host multiple winners.

Last year, in bed delirious with the flu, I entered and won a $39 online satellite tournament to the 2006 WSOP main event. A couple of days later, still feverish, I found myself at a table with nine strangers. No one introduced him- or herself. Few bothered to make eye contact, preferring dark glasses and baseball caps, as though hiding in plain sight. During the first day -- 15 hours of grueling play -- I did not hear a single joke, an engaging story or even collegial banter. Once, when a player was criticized by another for endless badmouthing, the player responded by saying, "Hey, I'm not here to make friends. This is all about money."

Today, in casinos and card rooms across the country, the social dimension of poker has been dismissed in favor of computerized playing strategies. Consider the following: In a live game at a casino, a dealer will deal 30 to 40 hands per hour. Online, where the cards do not have to be gathered or shuffled, hands are dealt at a much higher rate -- 80 to 100 hands per hour. Because there is a lot of downtime in poker (you get relatively few playable hands), most online players play multiple games simultaneously. The result is a dramatically compressed experience; the number of hands you might have played in a 10-hour live session can easily be played in one hour online. In a few months you can see combinations of hands that it would take years to see in person.

One of the most popular software programs, Poker Tracker, can keep track of every hand that you and your opponents play. It can provide detailed statistics on how the hand did against other hands, and even how it did dependent upon your table position when you played the hand. It will tell you how well you did with a pair of eights when you are the first player to act, versus playing the hand after several players had already folded. Quickly, you can build up a set of algorithms that determine optimal starting hands dependent on your table position and the playing characteristics of your opponents. Such programs also give you extensive information on what hands your opponents are likely to play. You can set the program to project your opponents' statistics directly over their screen icons, and players soon become known by their statistically determined playing habits rather than by their first names. You do not need to see a player's facial expression or how he or she shifts in the chair; you already know from your data analysis when he or she is or isn't likely to call or raise a hand.

Now factor in game theory -- the study of how to play optimally assuming that the other players are also playing optimally. Few of us had heard of game theory when we started playing poker; today it is everyday jargon. In a recent interview in New Scientist, the 2000 WSOP winner, Chris Ferguson, a Ph.D. in computer science, said that game theory has shown that the best hands to bet are your best and worst hands, and that you should bet your bad hands approximately one-third of the time. This statement makes no sense without a thorough grasp of both statistics and game theory yet, once understood, can be seen to be the optimal strategy employed by most successful tournament players. In a description of Yang's recent WSOP victory, an online poker site commentator indicated that Yang raised about one-third of his hands. Given the small number of good hands that you get in Texas Hold'em, it's apparent Yang is well versed in proper betting strategies according to game theory. Yang's knowing exactly when to raise or fold was less important than his knowing that he needed to do so a certain percentage of the time. What looks like utter magic is game theory unveiled.

In his book, "Tournament Poker for Advanced Players," David Sklansky wrote that a novice could essentially negate many of the attributes of the skilled tournament player by going "all in" (betting all his chips) with any decent hand. Counter to what was once considered good poker, this all-in strategy has been become one of the most successful methods for negating the superior playing skills of the best players. Watch any TV tournament and you will see "all-in fests." Players find a playable hand and shove in all their chips. This isn't poker as once played, but tournament poker as it is now played.

For old-timers, poker is about great bets, great reads of other players and the well-timed bluff -- all of the psychological elements that distinguish poker from games of pure probability, such as blackjack or craps. But where's the game in shoving in all your chips and daring your opponent to call? Remember "Rebel Without a Cause," where James Dean played chicken (two cars accelerate toward each other; the one that swerves first is the loser)? Although chicken might seem like a game of nerve or psychological one-upmanship, one of my more whimsical poker buddies has suggested there is a game theory solution to it: Make your opponent see you detach the steering wheel and throw it out your car window. Once he knows that you are "all in" (can't change your mind or your bet), he has only two choices -- a head-on collision (confrontation) or avoidance (fold). The odds are clearly in your favor.

A compounding problem of all-in bets is OPM -- other people's money. It's common knowledge among poker insiders that many of the most successful tournament players have backers, individuals and corporations that pay for entry fees in return for a percentage of the winnings. Many poker sites provide sponsorships in return for promotional services. Although seldom discussed, those players who have private backing and can play in a large number of tournaments without risk of personal capital are at a huge advantage. They can readily make the risky calls and bets that someone playing with his or her own hard-earned money is far less likely to make. (In stock market parlance, OPM is how slick fund managers can make outrageous profits. If they lose all their money, they just go on to another venture. They aren't burdened in risky decision making by having to personally absorb a large loss.)

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To put this in perspective, let me briefly relate a hand that I witnessed in Las Vegas in the early 1980s. Stu Ungar -- perhaps one of the best poker players in history -- was playing heads-up (one-on-one) with one of the other great players, Bobby Baldwin. Both put up $50,000. On the first hand, both went all in and turned up their cards. Before the dealer turned up the remaining cards to complete the hand, Baldwin was a slight favorite. He offered to take a small profit on the hand rather than risk all of his money on a nearly even proposition. Ungar refused. Baldwin then offered to split the pot. Ungar shook his head. The next card made Baldwin a 10-to-1 favorite. Again, because of the size of the pot, Baldwin offered to negotiate -- take some profit and give Ungar back some of his money. Ungar ordered the dealer to "deal the cards," a miracle card that won the hand for Ungar. He scooped up the pot and left the table. At the time, I did not understand Ungar's logic. Baldwin's offer had been more than fair; I couldn't imagine a sensible poker player turning it down.

And then I saw the answer. Ungar slipped behind a row of slot machines and handed the money to his sponsor, who, in turn, gave Ungar some of the winnings. The game had not been conducted on a level playing field. Baldwin, who would become the president of Mirage Hotels, was an intelligent, conservative player who was playing with his own money. Ungar was a reckless player with nothing at stake. Watch a few TV poker programs today and you will see certain players who make extraordinarily risky calls or bluffs. We wonder how they do it. Well, if you're not calling or betting with your own money, what's the risk? Imagine how different the TV shows would be if we were told which players were playing with their own money and which weren't.

Until recently, most tournament players believed that they had an edge over other players and could overcome the vigorish through skillful play. But this was before optimal game strategy became more universally employed. As poker moves from seat-of-the-pants play to easily available complex mathematical strategies, the likelihood of great players emerging from the mass of entrants will dramatically decline. More and more tournaments will be decided by a succession of "coin flips" (competition between two hands of nearly equal value), with results becoming increasingly random. Given that tournament poker is a zero-sum game (all the money comes from the entrants), and the casinos take 6 to 10 percent (or more) for hosting the events, the likelihood of being a long-term consistent winner is quite low. Unlike golf or tennis, where skill is a major factor and the best players inevitably rise to the top, it is now unusual to see a poker player, no matter how skilled, booking repeated wins.

And yet poker is being presented as a potentially life-changing opportunity. A generation of young kids is being seduced into believing in the easy life. Many drop out of school to pursue a misrepresented dream. In the process, they ignore productive careers in order to chase a mirage, an illusion that is in the process of unraveling. Meanwhile, cloistered in their virtual worlds, they are becoming social misfits. Walter Matthau once said that poker combined all the worst aspects of the capitalism that made America great. Perhaps his quip should be amended to say that poker now combines all the worst aspects of virtual existence that threaten American culture. Too bad. For those with a good memory, poker will have been a great pastime. For those who are new to the game, it will be a sorry disappointment.

 

Robert Burton can be found on Salon.com
and has no affiliation with 72os.com

 

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Press Release

Distribution Plan Implemented Today


Monday, 30 July 2007 – NETELLER Plc (LSE: NLR), the independent globalonline payments business, today announced that US customers now have access to their accounts online to request the withdrawal of funds.

As described in the Company's announcement of 4 June 2007, under the Distribution Plan agreed to with the United States Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York, US customers will be able to commence the process to achieve a return of their funds currently within their NETELLER e-wallets.

US customers will be able to access their NETELLER accounts online until 26 January 2008 and make a request for their funds. In accordance with NETELLER’s Terms of Use, no interest on account balances will be paid. NETELLER will not charge fees to customers to process requests for funds. Funds will be distributed either by electronic transfer to the bank account on record with NETELLER or by a cheque to be sent to a mailing address as confirmed by the customer. If a US customer has a bank account already registered with NETELLER, funds transfer will be by electronic transfer subject to confirmation by the customer that the registered bank account remains valid. US customers will receive the entire balance of funds in their account; no requests for partial payments will be processed. US customers cannot use their accounts for any transaction other than to request the funds.

Further information is available on the Company’s customer website, www.neteller.com, in particular the US customer update FAQs which are posted at updates.neteller.com.

"We are very pleased to start the funds distribution process today. I can assure our US customers it has been our highest priority and we'd like to thank them for their patience during this period", said Ron Martin, President and CEO. "The implementation of this plan marks another major step forward in the Company's recovery strategy".


About the NETELLER Group

Trusted by millions of consumers in over 160 countries to move and manage billions of dollars each year, the NETELLER Group operates the world's leading independent online payment business. The Group specialises in providing innovative and instant payment services where money transfer is difficult or risky due to identity, trust, currency exchange, or distance. Being independent has allowed the Group to support thousands of retailers and merchants in many geographies and across multiple industries.

NETELLER Plc is quoted on the London Stock Exchange’s AIM market, with a ticker symbol of NLR. NETELLER (UK) Limited is authorised by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) to operate as a regulated e-money issuer. For more information about the Group visit www.netellergroup.com.

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